The Messiah "learned obedience"? (Hebrews 5:8)
Yes, a soul could say that "The Messiah learned obedience", because as a child The Messiah subjected Himself unto His natural parents. (Luke 2:43-51)
However, why would The Messiah need to "learn obedience"?
Was He not obedient?
Would not disobedience be sin?
Yet The Messiah "was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin!" (Hebrews 4:15)
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http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2012/10/taking-bait-and-lies-are-swallowed-hook.html
And - IT IS - quite evident that The Messiah sought and desired above all else;
"FATHER, not My will, But THY Will Be Done!" (Luke 22:42) http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/07/father-not-my-will-but-thy-will-be-done.html
Yet The Messiah "was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin!" (Hebrews 4:15)
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/11/considering-lie-opens-door-and-allows.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2012/10/taking-bait-and-lies-are-swallowed-hook.html
And - IT IS - quite evident that The Messiah sought and desired above all else;
"FATHER, not My will, But THY Will Be Done!" (Luke 22:42) http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/07/father-not-my-will-but-thy-will-be-done.html
Should not the brethren(Naturally male or 'fe'male!) of The Messiah seek and desire the same!
YES! Most certainly more than this natural temporal life.......
And The Messiah testified, "Of My own self I can do nothing"! (John 5:19,30; 8:28-29)
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-messiah-testified-i-can-do-nothing.html
Can His brethren do anything more?
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/04/you-that-are-unable-to-do-least-why-do.html
And The Messiah testified, "Whatsoever Our FATHER and ELOHIM('God' IS of pagan greek mythology!) would have Me to do, that I do"! (John 5:36, 8:28)
Seems TRUTH - IS -, that rightfully translated and understood, Hebrews 5:8 would reveal that The Messiah learned, not to be obedient, but that He learned how His obedient brethren(Naturally male or 'fe'male!) would suffer, even as He did; as they sought and desired to follow Him on "The Narrow Way"! Seeking and desiring above all else to do "The Will and Good Pleasure" of "Our FATHER and ELOHIM"....... (Mathew 7:14, Philippians 2:13, Luke 22:42, John 20:17)
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/07/father-not-my-will-but-thy-will-be-done.html
And "The Word of TRUTH" does bear witness that "the brethren of
The Messiah will suffer as He suffered"! And TRUTH IS! His obedient brethren(Naturally male or 'fe'male!) most certainly will "learn obedience" as they "suffer unto the death" of their own self("I", ego, id, pride)life! (I Peter 4:1, Romans 8:17, II Corinthians 1:5-7, Philippians 1:29, II Thessalonians 1:5, II Timothy 2:12; 3:12, Revelations 12:11)
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/06/suffering-long-even-as-our-father-and.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-must-die.html
Thankfully The Holy, Set Apart, SPIRIT of "Our FATHER and ELOHIM" was WHOLLY in The Messiah, yet His suffering in the garden caused Him to declare, "If this cup(Of suffering!) can be taken from Me"....... (Matthew 26:42)
Yet TRUTH IS! The Messiah "did not learn obedience", HE WAS OBEDIENT!
Even "unto the death"....... (Revelations 12:11)
However, "in all things it was necessary for Him to be made liken unto His brethren(Naturally male or 'fe'male!), so that He might be a Merciful and Faithful High Priest in things pertaining to Our FATHER and ELOHIM, making reconciliation for the sins of the people! For in that He Himself suffered being tempted(Yet without sin!), He is able to help them that are tempted!" (Hebrews 2:17-18)
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/06/suffering-long-even-as-our-father-and.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2009/05/i-must-die.html
Thankfully The Holy, Set Apart, SPIRIT of "Our FATHER and ELOHIM" was WHOLLY in The Messiah, yet His suffering in the garden caused Him to declare, "If this cup(Of suffering!) can be taken from Me"....... (Matthew 26:42)
Yet TRUTH IS! The Messiah "did not learn obedience", HE WAS OBEDIENT!
Even "unto the death"....... (Revelations 12:11)
However, "in all things it was necessary for Him to be made liken unto His brethren(Naturally male or 'fe'male!), so that He might be a Merciful and Faithful High Priest in things pertaining to Our FATHER and ELOHIM, making reconciliation for the sins of the people! For in that He Himself suffered being tempted(Yet without sin!), He is able to help them that are tempted!" (Hebrews 2:17-18)
So it was that The Messiah DID LEARN what it would be like for His brethren(Naturally male or 'fe'male!) to be obedient unto "Our FATHER and ELOHIM", as they sought and desired to follow The Messiah on that "Narrow Way" which - IS -, "The Way(TO), The TRUTH(OF) The Life"! (Matthew 7:14, John 14:16)
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- IT IS - as prophesied! The brethren(Naturally male or 'fe'male!) of The Messiah yet on earth "will suffer as He suffered", for "the WHOLE world(Not just a portion!) - IS - under the control of 'D'evil one"! (Romans 8:17, Philippians 1:29, I John 5:19; 2:15-17, James 4:4) http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/06/let-patience-have-her-perfect-work.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/07/tribulation-begets-patience-romans-53.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-whole-world-not-just-portion-is.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2014/09/whoever-would-be-friend-of-this-world.html
Yes, suffering as The Messiah suffered, yet Thankfully so! For "love suffers long"! (II Corinthians 13:4)
So - IT IS - The Faithful brethren(Naturally male or 'fe'male!) of The Messiah, who "suffer as He suffered", cry unto Our FATHER and ELOHIM day and night"....... (I Peter 4:1, Romans 8:17, II Corinthians 1:5-7, Luke 18:7)
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/11/my-prayer-father-help-and-he-does.html
Evermore sounding and resounding a Declaration of Dependence:
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-declaration-of-dependence.html
FATHER Help!
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2013/01/is-there-name-or-title-greater-than.html
HE DID! and HE does.......
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HalleluYAH!
!.......FOREVER.......!
So Thankfully, "The Peace that surpasses ALL understanding" - IS - ! In spite of the dis-ease(No-Peace!) that IS of 'D'evil's world and/or religion's way(Except it be The Active Faith as revealed in James 1:27!) in these last days! (Philippians 4:7, John 14:27; 7:7, I John 2:15-17;5:19, James 1:27; 4:4)
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http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/04/carnal-warfare-is-religions-way-which.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/08/peace-on-earth-sadly-worldly-and.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/04/carnal-warfare-is-religions-way-which.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/08/peace-on-earth-sadly-worldly-and.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2015/05/faith-without-works-is-dead-james-217.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2014/09/whoever-would-be-friend-of-this-world.html
http://asimpleandspirituallife.blogspot.com/2011/05/come-out-of-her-my-people.html
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"TRUTH - IS - that which Truly Matters, for apart from The TRUTH, What - IS - ?
In TRUTH, Thankfully Peace - IS - and Miracles Do Happen!
So The Faithful rejoice! For soon and very soon, Home! Home at last....... (Luke 16:1-14, John 14:1-3)
ALL Thanks and Praise Be Unto Our FATHER(ELOHIM{"god" -IS- of pagan greek and catholic/christian mythology!}, TRUTH, SPIRIT, CREATOR, LORD, MASTER, LIGHT, LOVE, LIFE,,,, ALL IN ALL that which IS Truly GOOD)! (John 20:17; 14:28, Mark 10:18)
HalleluYAH! !.......FOREVER.......!
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